
Sure, the ultimate Girl Next Door actually lives next to a permanent colony of paparazzi, and yeah, the relationship thing hasnât exactly been a fairy tale. But Jennifer Aniston is in control (does that look like a body under duress?), overhauling her image (sheâs ready to play a cougar!), and getting what she needs from a notorious swordsman eight years her junior (not that thereâs anything wrong with that)
By Mark KirbyItâs a sunny afternoon in late October, and Jennifer Aniston and I are having lunch inside the bright, modern Beverly Hills home she uses as an office, talking about the 24/7 unscripted dramaâcall it The Jen Showâwhose mobile production unit is parked right out front. Arriving for our meeting, Iâd watched three paparazzi SUVs speed by, rip some Grand Theft Autoâstyle doughnuts in the street, and station their vehicles facing downhill, positioned for pursuit. There seem to be about a half-dozen paps outsideâa slow day on the set. Last weekâs episode, âThe One Where Jen and John Mayer Get Back Together,â drew twenty men who trailed her constantly, jockeying for those exclusive photos of the couple that have fetched as much as $20,000. Todayâs crew are just staffers, guys who stalk Aniston full-time for photo agencies like X17.
âYesterday I pulled up to one truck and rolled down my window,â she says, leaning in. âI go, âLet me just ask, this is every day? Every day now? Is there a way we could make this a little bit saner?â Itâs just not human to walk around with twenty cars following youâthereâs no ease. Maybe they do want you to get all Mariah Carey on yourself and be put into an institution. I miss the days when they hid in the bushes.â
Thereâs an edge to the way Aniston jokes about the publicâs obsession with her life, especially when she describes the ill will she harbors for the anonymous parasites who chronicle the burgers she eats, the gas she pumps, the trash she takes out. At one point, I mention that one of the guys out front has a ladder in the back of his 4Runner. âThatâs illegal!â she snaps. The ladder, if used to peep over her towering hedges, would violate California privacy law. âI hope he hits something.â She pauses, realizing how that sounds. âItâs terrible when you wish horrible things on other human beings.â
Listening to Jen tear into the tabloid circus is entertaining stuff, and for a moment I marvel at just how lucky I am to be inside the iron gate, eating a delicious, Asian-influenced chicken-and-fried-cheese dish with one of the worldâs most sought-after women, a woman who has barely talked to the press in two yearsâŠuntil, that is, I remember that Iâve come to Anistonâs office in large part to ask precisely the same sorts of questionsâIs this thing with Mayer really going to last? Are you truly over the divorce? Donât you just fucking hate Angelina?âthat the scrum of photographers out front seek to answer with their cameras.
Huh. I guess we could talk about Halloween or some shit. But isnât the tabloid stuff all anyone really wants to know?
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Aniston has been really famousâ25-million-viewers-a-week famousâfor my entire post-pubescent life. And going into our meeting, Iâd been fairly convinced that sheâd be too familiar to seem sexy in personâthat after years of quirky Rachel Greenâesque roles, itâd be impossible to see her as anything but merely cute, or that if Americaâs Sweetheart did seem sexy, itâd be a Mrs. Robinson thing. Not so. Jen looks at least as young, if not younger, than she did during her Friends days, this despite her looming fortieth birthday. She looks better, tooâfit and sun kissed as always, but somehow in greater possession of herself and seemingly at ease with her age. âI still canât wrap my head around how old Iâm going to be,â she says. âI feel more comfortable today than I ever did in my twenties or early thirties. Iâm healthier. Iâm more at peace in my mind and with my body.â
That bodyâwell, as you can see, it defies both time and nature. I ask Jen how she felt about this cover shoot. âThere is a moment when you walk in and see the wardrobeâitâs basically a tieâand you think, Whereâs the underwear?â she replies with a laugh. âBut it felt really good to be that comfortable with myselfâand to lie on men as furniture.â
Today, Jen has a bit more to her wardrobe: jeans, sandals, and a gray tank top so form-fitting that, when sheâs photographed wearing it a few weeks later, its snugness to her flat stomach is taken as evidence that she is not, in fact, the future mother of Liâl Johnny Mayer. A few weeks after our interview, sheâll make a cameo on 30 Rock, and all anyone will talk about is the French-maid outfit she wore and how perfect her legs looked draped across Tina Feyâs desk. (On whether or not the 30 Rock stint might become a regular gig, she says: âThat, to me, is an ideal job: great cast, New York City. Weâll see what I say if they come back and ask meâI wouldnât say yes, I wouldnât say no.â)
As we finish lunch, she talks about the project she seems most excited about: a movie sheâs developing called Pumas, in which she hopes to star with Elizabeth Banks.
âItâs sort of a female Wedding Crashers,â she says. âItâs these two girls who are aspiring cougars. It is so a comment on the sexual double standardâand whatâs been ironic is how hard itâs been to get this movie made. Studios want it, but theyâre afraid of Middle America. Theyâd want to change it; theyâre saying, Oh, you canât do that, people just canât imagine youâŠâ Sheâs alluding here to Hollywoodâs formula for romantic comedies and her default character within themâoffbeat, likable, and unlucky in love. As she talks about Pumas, you get the sense that sheâs feeling a little hemmed in by the tabloid ĂŒber-narrative that frames her lifeâthe one in which her failure to remarry and procreate is a cause of Deep and Lasting Sadnessâespecially when that false story line gets in the way of her career.
âLook, I think all women at some level just want to rage against the machine,â she says. âThere are just too many movies out there that donât empower womenâmovies in which their only way of being happy is finding a man. And you know, thatâs not my favorite theme.â
Right. Jen, Brad, Angelinaâthe âinsane Bermuda Triangle,â as Aniston calls it. She and I spend about twenty minutes swirling around in this vortex, but before you follow us in, I should warn you: You may never make it out. Over the course of this discussion, there are exactly two moments when it feels as though she is offering candid, unselfconscious answers. The first is when I wonder if she has any theories on why, four years after her separation from Pitt, the story keeps selling magazines. She responds swiftly. âThe funny thing is that people donât realize we all go away to the Hamptons on the weekends.â
Yeah?
âNo. But can you imagine? Thatâd be hysterical: Iâve got Zahara on my hip, and KnoxâŠââ
Later, after she describes her current relationship with Pitt (âWe donât not talk. When thereâs something to congratulate or celebrate, thereâs always an exchange. But thereâs no charge on itâ), I ask whether she ever speaks to Jolie.
âNo. Nuh-uh,â she says immediatelyâand then, as if to sweeten the message, offers a forced little tongue-biting grin.
Beyond that, her words are carefully measured. There are trains of thought that begin, then stall, then ultimately halt in smiling demurrals; requests to answer with the tape recorder turned off; facial expressions that say: I may not be answering, but, well, you can probably guess the answer. Itâs all weirdly tantalizing. At one point, I ask her about some recent tabloid headlinesâangelina stabs jen in the heartâand whether she truly was surprised when Jolie said she canât wait to show her kids Mr. & Mrs. Smith because ânot a lot of people get to see a movie where their parents fell in love.â (In the event that youâve had better things to do, this was the first time Jolie had publicly acknowledged that her love for Pitt began before his marriage to Aniston ended.)
It takes her seven days to fully answer. First she says, âWell, you know, that was definitely a confirmation for me of something that wasnât quite confirmed at the time. But listenâŠyou sit there and you⊠No. No daggers through the heart. I laugh. Am I surprised? Well, how do I say this?â Then she goes off-the-record for several minutes. Finally, a week later, she calls to deliver an on-the-record statement thatâs brief but not without bite: âConsidering the source, nothing surprises me.â She then spends a good deal of time talking about how hard sheâs finding it to talk about Jolie after years of silence, this despite having given her now infamous (if hilariously understated) âThat was really uncoolâ comment to Vogue a few weeks earlier.
So what to make of âThe One Where Jen Lashes Out for the Second Time in the Six Weeks Leading Up to Her New Film!â? Well, for starters, consider that âwhat Jen really thinksâ is a commodity worth millions in pre-opening box-office publicity. To believe that Aniston would be in any way cavalier about how she doles it out is to deny her the credit she deserves. Of course sheâs aware that this âConsidering the sourceâ jab will be all over the tabloids. Of course she knows that when she answers a question like âWould you ever sell your baby photos to People?â (âNo way, thatâs just not somethingâŠnoâ), sheâs also commenting on her rival.
But calculation and sincerity arenât mutually exclusive, and I have no doubt that Anistonâs answers are genuine. In fact, after hearing her speak off-the-record, if only briefly, on the whole Pitt-Jolie saga, letâs just settle it like this: How Jen feels about Angelina is pretty much exactly how youâd think sheâd feel.
Now can we please discuss the work? Aniston has two big movies coming out soon: Heâs Just Not That Into You, an ensemble comedy about women struggling to find love thatâs due out, depressingly, around Valentineâs Day, and this monthâs Marley & Me, in which she stars with Owen Wilsonâa surprisingly touching movie about a family, their yellow Lab, and mortality. âI just loved the portrait of a marriage, seeing this couple over a span of fifteen years,â she says of Marley & Me. âYou have expectationsâitâs all exciting when youâre young and your dreams are big and everythingâs ahead of you, and then things donât always happen the way you expect them to happen and itâs painful.â
Itâs statements like this that make interviewing Aniston such a bizarre experience. Our entire conversation seems to take place on two distinct levels. On one, itâs just Jen and meâa friendly chat between a journalist and an extremely warm and gracious actress whoâs simply talking about her latest film. But she is simultaneously speaking right past me, to the Oprah-watching, US Weeklyâreading, movie-ticket-buying public who will interpret her remarks, once they reach the gossip ether, as a sign that her performance in Marley & Me is yet another episode in The Jen Showâone surely not to be missed. She herself does nothing to discourage that very conclusion: âMy movies always seem to come at the right times. If this role had come to me a couple of years ago, I donât think I wouldâve been able to do it.â
After lunch, we move into the living room, where Jen poses with yogi-perfect posture atop a fantastically shagged white carpet while I slouch against an armchair and ask whether sheâll talk about Mayer.
âOf course,â she says cheerfully. âIâll discuss certain things about my private life to a point, but other things are just nobodyâs business.â
So whatâs the deal with you two?
âWe care deeply for each other, and weâre just trying to figure it out.â
Youâre not having his baby, then.
âI am not having his baby. And I have not popped the question.â
Were you a fan of his music before you started dating?
âHonestly, I did not know much about him before I met him. Iâd heardâŠyou know, uh, âYour Bodyââthat song. But what I can say is that I had no idea what an extraordinary musician he is. And itâs just great to sit and be witness to that. Itâs kind of like, Whoa!ââ
In August, when Aniston and Mayer took some time off, there was widespread speculation that the split was, in part, because Mayer had been too loose-lipped about their relationship. Heâs a blogger and prone to speaking directly to paparazzi and gossip reporters, which is something Jen avoids. There are rumors that one of the conditions of the two of them getting back together is that Mayer cuts back on the public proclamations, so I ask her:
It seems like John is a fairly self-aware guy and that he enjoys managing his own persona more than the typical celebrityâso you see him blogging orâ
âNot lately, have you?â
Uh, no. Not recently. Why?
âJustâŠthings change.â
Itâs almost time to goâJenâs expected just down the street at the new house sheâs building for herself, a Balinese-inspired haven that rests on the prow of a hill overlooking West Hollywood. But before I leave, I have to ask about what sheâreferring earlier to the photo of her and the half-naked dudesâdescribed as âsort of a cougar thing.â Her friend Courteney Cox has just announced a TV show called Cougar Town, thereâs that Pumas movie, and of course, the younger man. Sure, it all seems a little heavy-handed, but if Jenâs trying to signal that in the next episode of her life sheâll play a fortysomething sex symbol, well, weâre certainly not going to complain.
So what gives? Do she and her friends honestly see themselves that way?
âNo. Not at all,â she says with a laugh. âFirst of all, you need to be 40. Itâs not like weâre saying, âOh, you snagged yourself a young one.âââ But then she pauses, as if thereâs maybe at least a little something to it. âLook,â she says. âI donât think thereâs anything wrong with living by your own rulesâyou know, whatever blows your hair back.â
Jen gives me a hug, and I walk out of the house, down the driveway, and through the iron gate. Across the street, five paparazzi stand atop their SUVs, cameras ready; another three lie in ambush in the hedges right outside the gate. I get into my car and drive just a little up the street to a place where I can watch their quarry flee.
A white van filled with tourists on a tour of movie starsâ homes cruises past, then a Honda Pilot with a cameraman surfing on its roof, then a gigantic black Suburban. (I canât tell whether itâs part of Anistonâs security detail or some sort of paparazzi mother ship.) After about fifteen minutes, the Beverly Hills P.D. arrives to shoo the paps down off their vehicles and, finally, Jen backs out of the driveway.
The chase is on! But itâs an absurd one: six SUVs and a cop car trailing a Prius two-tenths of a mile down the street. By the time I even start my engine, Aniston has already arrived at her new place, unscathed and unphotographed. Not so lucky is the guy with the ladder in back of his 4Runner. Halfway down the hill, in hot pursuit, he loses control of his vehicle, careens into the neighborâs mailbox, and thenâjust as Jen had hopedâcrashes into a tree




December 14th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Thanks Mark…..great interview!
December 18th, 2008 at 12:38 am
jennifer, of course you are amazing~ 40 and looking like a 28 year old. I think you have held together so well, despite the public marriage and divorce, that must of been so difficult. I am a very private person, you must have guts to overcome that. I think you must get strenth to edure it over the years. I am a flight attendant living in Carlsbad, I know what it is like living in the public eye, Scrutny is has become an element in my life. I am always “on call”. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I love your work and to keep going,,, the sky is not the limit,,,
December 18th, 2008 at 6:39 am
jennifer is a woman of dignity, despite of what brad and angelina did to her she remain quiet. We can’t really stop thinking why brad dunped her… she’s much more beautiful and sophisticated than angelina jolie. She deserve to be happy. She’s great!!!!